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Whisky Made From Diabetics' Urine

samzenpus posted more than 4 years ago | from the I've-tasted-this-before dept.

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It's doubtful that any other distillery will come up with a whisky that tastes like Gilpin Family Whisky because of its secret ingredient: urine. Researcher and designer James Gilpin uses the sugar rich urine of elderly diabetics to make his high-end single malt whisky. From the article: "The source material is acquired from elderly volunteers, including Gilpin's own grandmother, Patricia. The urine is purified in the same way as mains water is purified, with the sugar molecules removed and added to the mash stock to accelerate the whisky's fermentation process. Traditionally, that sugar would be made from the starches in the mash."

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Still not as good as my "Orphan Blood Rum" (5, Funny)

elrous0 (869638) | more than 4 years ago | (#33429904)

The sadder they are when mommy abandons them, the richer the taste.

Re:Still not as good as my "Orphan Blood Rum" (2, Interesting)

camperslo (704715) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430012)

Next up: brewing in zero-G

This ties in with the space junk story "The space age has filled Earth's orbit with all manner of space junk, from spent rocket stages to frozen bags of astronaut urine..."

Re:Still not as good as my "Orphan Blood Rum" (1)

c6gunner (950153) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430398)

I somehow doubt that there are any diabetics in orbit.

Re:Still not as good as my "Orphan Blood Rum" (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33430590)

The best result can be had if they've been kept immobile since birth.

I first read the headline (0, Offtopic)

Nimey (114278) | more than 4 years ago | (#33429908)

as "Dianetics".

That Hubbard was something else.

Re:I first read the headline (1)

feldicus (1367687) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430182)

Thetan hair is one of the Colonel's secret herbs.

Re:I first read the headline (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33430204)

"That Hubbard was something else."

If you'd used his urine the whisky resulting would probably make you high, not drunk.

Re:I first read the headline (1)

Threni (635302) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430392)

> as "Dianetics".
>That Hubbard was
>something else.

Naah - he was full of shit. This is piss - it's completely different.

Re:I first read the headline (1)

jgagnon (1663075) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430406)

What has been seen cannot be unseen...

Great! (4, Insightful)

18_Rabbit (663482) | more than 4 years ago | (#33429910)

But...why?

Re:Great! (5, Funny)

sco08y (615665) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430214)

I figured it was the same reason they use it in American light beers.

Re:Great! (1)

jgagnon (1663075) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430420)

So very true...

Re:Great! (3, Funny)

UnknownSoldier (67820) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430830)

That reminds me of that old Monty Python Joke...

Q. Do you know why American beer is like making love in a canoe?
A. It's fucking close to water.

Anyways, I don't understand how Americans can drink that watered down [crap*] like Budweiser or Coors after tasting "real" beer like the Germans or Ale that the Bristish make...

* No offense intended if you actually _like_ that stuff...

Re:Great! (1)

couchslug (175151) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430846)

I'm an American and resent the offensive comparison of innocent urine to our loathsome fake "beer".

Re:Great! (4, Funny)

bwayne314 (1854406) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430686)

they drink it because it's sterile and they like the taste

Re:Great! (3, Funny)

Werkhaus (549466) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430770)

It certainly brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "wee dram".

Smells funny... (1)

Mirey (1324435) | more than 4 years ago | (#33429914)

"uses the sugar rich urine or elderly diabetics to make his high-end single malt whisky"
So not only will it smell of wee, it'll also smell of... uhh... well, more wee!

Re:Smells funny... (2, Insightful)

X0563511 (793323) | more than 4 years ago | (#33429956)

Wait a minute...

You mean we can make whiskey made of people now?

Re:Smells funny... (1)

DarkKnightRadick (268025) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430054)

Why not, you can already make food from people [imdb.com] .

Re:Smells funny... (1)

tacarat (696339) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430154)

Well... I think we're that much closer to a closed loop for consumption. Food and drink, for you, by you.

Re:Smells funny... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33430364)

Look out for the scoops!

Re:Smells funny... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33430426)

Spits out lunch.

Dammit! I was enjoying that!

Re:Smells funny... (1)

jewishbaconzombies (1861376) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430192)

How's it taste?

It varies from person to person.

Re:Smells funny... (1)

Mister Whirly (964219) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430428)

Like smoky piss...

Re:Smells funny... (1)

popeye44 (929152) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430772)

It has a little wang to it.

Re:Smells funny... (1)

BeerCat (685972) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430308)

"Once fermented into a clear alcohol spirit, whisky blends are added to give colour, taste and viscosity, and the product is bottled with the name and age of the contributor."

So it's not a single malt [wikipedia.org] . It's a blend.

Re:Smells funny... (1)

Dalambertian (963810) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430788)

I knew pisswasser [youtube.com] was a real product.

Can't Resist (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33429926)

First piss!

Re:Can't Resist (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33430186)

Now that was funny...

Well thats one way (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33429928)

Well thats one way to get pissed.

How is this news? (5, Funny)

multipartmixed (163409) | more than 4 years ago | (#33429944)

Americans have been making beer from urine for a century. I don't see how Whisky is a stretch.

Re:How is this news? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33430036)

The trick is doing it in a way that yields a high alcohol content.

Re:How is this news? (1)

Bryansix (761547) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430040)

Budweiser does kind of taste like piss.

Re:How is this news? (1)

MBGMorden (803437) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430256)

On what basis do you make the comparison? I mean sure, Bud is a bit nasty, but I have no fucking clue what piss tastes like so I don't know if they are similar.

Re:How is this news? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33430288)

I guess you never been squirted on, or can't make someone squirt. but yeah USA Budweiser is nasty stuff unlike the czech one

On what basis do you make the comparison? I mean sure, Bud is a bit nasty, but I have no fucking clue what piss tastes like so I don't know if they are similar.

Re:How is this news? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33430514)

On what basis do you make the comparison? I mean sure, Bud is a bit nasty, but I have no fucking clue what piss tastes like so I don't know if they are similar.

I guess you never been squirted on, ...

Actually:

A 2007 study on two women involved ultrasound, endoscopy, and biochemical analysis of fluid. The ejaculate was compared to pre-orgasmic urine from the same woman, and also to published data on male ejaculate. In both women, higher levels of PSA, PAP, and glucose but lower levels of creatinine were found in the ejaculate than the urine. PSA levels were comparable to those in males. Reference [wikipedia.org]

It's not exactly urine what the woman is squiring, so the taste is not necessarily the same.

Re:How is this news? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33430520)

They are and, yes, I have tasted urine. My girlfriend and I are kinky like that.

Re:How is this news? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33430624)

I'd mod this, but I can't find "-1Disgusting" in the drop box.

Re:How is this news? (1)

SleazyRidr (1563649) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430646)

They're not really similar, piss is kinda salty, but Bud is a little hoppier. Maybe if someone had been drinking a lot of beer their piss would taste a little like Bud.

Re:How is this news? (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430844)

A significant amount of what we know as taste is actually smell.

Re:How is this news? (1)

MBGMorden (803437) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430858)

In which case I'd say that fresh popcorn tends to smell more like piss than Budweiser . . . .

Re:How is this news? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33430072)

Stop trolling.

Yuengling [yuengling.com] is both cheap and refreshing. I've tasted many an "international" beer. There's nothing magical to them from my POV. Let us enjoy our ale in peace.

Re:How is this news? (2, Interesting)

retchdog (1319261) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430280)

I don't personally like Yuengling, but that's hardly relevant.

It's quite clear that "American beer" generally refers to the product of megabreweries, which is the common face of beer in America. The criticism of American beer is properly understood, whether you agree or not, as a criticism of mainstream American taste for accepting such crap. I think that whatever one's tastes, there will be an American beer (perhaps very obscure) that comes pretty close to satisfying it. The same cannot be said of other countries, where the unified national taste dictates the product.

Now personally, I think American budweiser just completes the commodification and blandification of beer pioneered in Plzen (i.e., birthplace of Pilsner) some centuries ago. Once again America finishes what Europe starts.

I'll pay a premium for and appreciate good ale; stout; gueuze; barleywine; &c., but if I want something `smooth' I'll go all the way with an ice-cold Natty, Coors or Budweiser rather than go half-cocked with Pilsner Urquell or similar. Fortunately it's also a cheaper option.

Re:How is this news? (1)

Sir_Lewk (967686) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430614)

Fun fact: Anheuser-Busch InBev is a Belgium company. If you really want to stretch it you could say Budweiser is no longer an "American" beer.

(really though, that statement is quite a stretch. I mean, calling Budweiser a beer?!?)

Re:How is this news? (1)

SleazyRidr (1563649) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430640)

Well, as long as the jingle is still "Budweiser: the great American style lager" I reckon it still counts as an American beer.

Re:How is this news? (1)

h4rr4r (612664) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430344)

Normal Yuengling is a lager not an ale. At least know what you are drinking.
Yuengling is far less watery garbage than say rolling rock.

Re:How is this news? (1)

jez9999 (618189) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430112)

Yep, in fact a lot of people don't realize that a now-antiquated term for diabetics' urine is "coors light". True story.

Re:How is this news? (1)

jgagnon (1663075) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430452)

So the lime variety is...?

Never mind, I don't want to know...

Re:How is this news? (1)

nanoakron (234907) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430184)

Reminds me of the old saying about European beer vs. US beer -

"What we call lager, they call beer.

What they call beer, we call piss."

Re:How is this news? (1)

jgagnon (1663075) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430460)

What they call piss we call...???

Wine? :p

Re:How is this news? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33430632)

Why not cut to the chase and just say "lager is piss"?

Re:How is this news? (1)

MBGMorden (803437) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430318)

Eh - our beer may leave something to be desired, but American whiskey is actually pretty darned good. I'd put Maker's Mark up against just about any of the foreign whiskeys.

Re:How is this news? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33430492)

You'd lose. While there are a lot of great American whiskeys (Four roses, for instance, and some of the titles from Buffalo trace come to mind), Maker's Mark is not one of them. Maker's is overpriced crap for people who don't really like whiskey.

Re:How is this news? (1)

SleazyRidr (1563649) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430670)

I'd put Maker's Mark up against a foreign whiskey, then I'd leave it on the shelf as I drank the foreign stuff.

I was at a bar once drinking Southern Comfort, the bartender suggested that if I liked the Southern Comfort, I'd probably also enjoy Maker's Mark. I have no idea where he got that idea from, Southern Comfort is, if anything, a little too sweet and smooth, but the Maker's Mark was like drinking sandpaper it was so rough. Not to bag on all American booze, but Maker's Mark is not the one I'd call out.

Can't forget the old joke (1)

Bruce Perens (3872) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430354)

Why is American Beer like making love in a row-boat?

:-)

Re:Can't forget the old joke (5, Funny)

blair1q (305137) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430430)

It's the only way Canadians can get a girl wet.

Re:How is this news? (1)

Sulphur (1548251) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430838)

Put it back in the horse.

--

Table for two, piss for one.

Perfect! (1)

natehoy (1608657) | more than 4 years ago | (#33429948)

I'll have a jigger of that mixed with my civet-poo coffee for a perfect dessert beverage!

All new meaning (1)

Zerak-Tul (1654309) | more than 4 years ago | (#33429974)

To the term 'getting pissed'...

Friggin Brits... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33430620)

The term "pissed" means extremely angry, not drunk.

Bah.

You Gave Away the Secret! (1)

pete-classic (75983) | more than 4 years ago | (#33429982)

What part of secret don't you understand? Urine trouble now!

-Peter

So what is the purpose of this? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33429986)

There is no explanation for why anyone would want to do this other than to "accelerate the fermentation process", which distillers typically do with just normal sugar.

What's so special about diabetic sugar?

Personally I don't think this is a very good idea. Consider this is human waste which means lots of potential for undesired interaction in other humans. With all the drugs and pathogens that might be in this, there is no way to guarantee that the filtering process works 100%. I mean Mad Cow disease is an example of one of those things that popped up that we had no idea how to handle.

Re:So what is the purpose of this? (3, Insightful)

Nikker (749551) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430224)

I'm with you on this one main reason being as people get older they take quite a bit of medication to sustain a level of comfort and mobility. Even our main water supply is filtered but remnants of medications survive and that is after being diluted amongst all other waste water, this is not even diluted at all. On top of it all his entire supply is exclusively from elderly diabetics who will almost all be taking other forms of medication. Sounds scary enough to me to let this one alone.

Re:So what is the purpose of this? (1)

Steauengeglase (512315) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430750)

Isn't it obvious? So we can get crunk in space.

NOT whiskey (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33429992)

Whiskey is made from grain -- barley, wheat, and in the US corn -- but not from other sugars, no matter where they come from.

This nonsense might be called vodka, which can be made from grain, potatoes, or my favorite, whey.

Actually I would call it industrial ethanol, and maybe use it as a fuel additive at best.

brown vodka (1)

OrangeTide (124937) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430414)

Put vodka in a burnt oak barrel for 18 months or more. Now you have something that tastes like (crappy) whiskey, and is no longer considered vodka. Many whiskeys are so heavily filtered (to give a milder flavor) at the distillation phase that they lost most, if not all, of the interesting volatiles from the malt that a fine scotch contains.

In the US really cheap whiskey can be just "grain neutral spirits" (industrial ethanol) plus caramel color and flavoring. There are special labels that are regulated in the US, but putting some brown fluid in a plastic 1 gallon jug can be called whiskey, rum, and numerous other things in the US.

Re:brown vodka (1)

Sponge Bath (413667) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430652)

From your post title I thought you would describe something brewed with feces, aka chunky style.

Re:brown vodka (1)

confused one (671304) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430834)

almost. "Corn whiskey" fits your definition... As does "blended whiskey" which can be neutral spirits and flavoring mixed with aged whiskey. Everything else has to spend time in a new charred white-oak barrel. At least two years to become "straight ____ whiskey", bourbon, or tennessee whiskey. There are rules... And you should stay away from the cheap(est) stuff.

This wiskey tastes like piss ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33430006)

Ooo it's supposed to taste like piss ... then you sir are spot on.

diabetics made from whisk(e)y? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33430020)

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My God... (1)

thewiz (24994) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430024)

...uses the sugar rich urine or elderly diabetics to make his high-end single malt whisky.

The whiskey is made of PEOPLE!

Now pardon me while I find a toilet.

Re:My God... (1)

firefly.fairy (1867896) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430860)

"...is brought to you by Gilipin Family red and Gilipin yellow, high energy fermented mash, and new, delicious, Gilipin Family green. The miracle drink of high-end single malts gathered from the grains of the world."

"It's people. Gilipin Family malts are made out of people. They're making our booze out of people. Next thing they'll be breeding us like cattle for food. You've gotta tell them. You've gotta tell them! "

Human vices drive innovation (1)

prakslash (681585) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430060)

Looks like just as porn drives the advances in computer technology, alcohol will drive the advances in renewable sources technology.
Of course, now when someone says "this beer tastes like piss", you can tell them, it actually is piss. They then have the choice of running out and screaming "The booze is piss, people!"

Serious question (3, Insightful)

by (1706743) (1706744) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430090)

Is there anything special about sugars extracted this way, other than the obvious shock value? Is it some trace amount of minerals they're after? I mean, for all I know I'm breathing oxygen atoms from dinosaur farts -- but it's exactly the same as oxygen atoms from any other source...

Re:Serious question (1)

rHBa (976986) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430682)

This bit worries me:

The urine is purified in the same way as mains water is purified

When you purify water (to make mains water) the bit you want to keep is the water and the stuff you have removed is the 'impurities'. That would suggest to me that they are using the 'impurities' to make the whiskey. Hopefully there is another process that removes the sugars from the other chemicals in the extracted material, a process that probably has nothing to do with water purification.

Re:Serious question (1)

hedwards (940851) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430870)

I'm guessing that there's other stuff in there as well. Urine isn't purely one substance or another, it's water plus whatever salt and crap your kidney's felt like passing on.

IGH! (1)

AkkarAnadyr (164341) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430092)

Oh, *phew*, you mean just *some* whisky ...

Wow (1)

mattwrock (1630159) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430130)

It's the latest thing in the "recycling" craze. Lets make sure that Kevin Costner doesn't find out, or he will put it in a futuristic movie... oh wait, he did!

Piss Drinkers Magazine? (1)

jewishbaconzombies (1861376) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430170)

Man...I just got fired from Piss Drinkers...the editor threw a shit fit. I don't wanna deal with that.

I'm gonna go work at Shit Fit.

Reminds me of that joke... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33430240)

Tonight, you get to drink straight from the tap.

ewwwwww (1)

Chewbacon (797801) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430260)

Wow, that's gross. Whisky ever leave a funny taste in your mouth?

Re:ewwwwww (1)

revlayle (964221) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430472)

Only when made by clowns

Why do they have high blood sugar? (1, Insightful)

tomhudson (43916) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430278)

Yes, your blood sugar tends to rise as you get older, but if it's so high that you can extract useful amounts of sugar on it, you should be taking meds.

The article says these are elderly diabetic patients. There's no reason for them to have higher blood sugar than anyone else - Banting and Best discovered insulin before most of them were even born.

Sounds like either neglect or abuse to me.

Try this gin (2, Funny)

OrangeTide (124937) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430312)

It's made from tears and broken dreams.

Doesn't scale well (1)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430320)

Couldn't they get the same taste just by making whiskey out of American beer?

Don't drink it! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33430322)

Soylent yellow is people!

What's it taste like? (1)

toxonix (1793960) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430362)

Now it tastes like band-aids...
.. that have been pissed on.

Yellow Thing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33430376)

Mi agüita amarilla, mi agüita amarilla,
mi agüita amarilla, mi agüita amarilla.
El sol calienta mi aguita amarilla,
la pone a cien grados,
la manda para arriba,
viaja por el cielo,
llega a tu ciudad
y empieza a diluviar.

Whiskey Eh? (1)

joshdw4 (1083273) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430402)

So if they have an infection, does it make "Southern Discomfort". The Makers used it to Mark their territory. Wild Turkey (yeah, I'm not going there). Peegrams Seven. Ok, I need to stop. This isn't punny.

A new spin on ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33430446)

Taking the piss.

All together now... (1)

roc97007 (608802) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430488)

Too! Much! Information!

So how, uh, did he get the idea? (1)

goffster (1104287) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430500)

I suppose it does look like corn mash liquid.

Bless you, diabetics... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#33430584)

..."Bliabetics".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrryML0XVuY

Fly agaric and urine-drinking in Siberia (2, Informative)

dpbsmith (263124) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430648)

In Siberia, reputedly, there were tribes in which the religious shamans ate fly agaric, a psychedelic mushroom, to attain a religious experience, and his followers would then drink his urine, which contained the psychedelic substance, in order to share in the experience.

Re:Fly agaric and urine-drinking in Siberia (1)

RDW (41497) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430784)

Well I've heard of a 'sugar high', but this really is taking the piss.

The summary misses one rather important point from the original article: 'It's more of an art piece'. We are now entering the realm of sharks in formaldeyde, paintings rendered in HIV-positive blood, and unmade beds exhibited in galleries. In other news, an Artist is crafting Teddy bears from cured placentas (no, really). Normal rules do not apply.

Home Brew. (1)

w0mprat (1317953) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430654)

I have a collection of fine vintage Whisky. Does this mean I can get to drink my best whisky twice?

OMG! (1)

mcneely.mike (927221) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430714)

And so, if you get the seniors who donate the pee to drink the whiskey made from their pee, and then donate the pee that that whiskey makes them pee, does it get concentrated or distilled further? And then if that concentrated pee is made into new 'pee' whiskey and they drink THAT whiskey and then THAT pee is made into whiskey, and then....

OMG! It might be worth becoming a donator (donor?) just to see the high you might get off THAT pee whiskey made from pee whiskey, made from pee whiskey, made from......

OMG, now if i can only come up with a car analogy.... or...
Seniors + pee =whiskey + seniors =pee + whiskey=.........
PROFIT????? or just EWWWWWW!!

Enough with the American Beer Bashing (1)

Maltheus (248271) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430726)

Sure Budweiser and Coors deserve to be slammed, but America has a nearly endless selection of great beer. I'll take a local brewed double IPA over anything I've had during Oktoberfest in Munich. People who slam American beer probably weren't into beer to begin with.

Re:Enough with the American Beer Bashing (1)

mcneely.mike (927221) | more than 4 years ago | (#33430776)

Yes, but is your local IPA served in Litre glasses by big busted fraulein?

Definitely like 'homebrew'/local brew more than BIG brewer beer!
MMMMMM... beer. Beer good! I think i'll go sample my homebrew brown ale right now!

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