Florida Fails To Pass Bestiality Law 56
One would think it would be easy to get lawmakers to agree that having sex with an animal should be outlawed. However, Florida lawmakers are proving just how hard it is for them to make an agreement on anything after failing to pass a proposed bestiality bill. From the article: "The inability to outlaw something so repugnant reveals how difficult it can be to get even the most carefully crafted, widely supported bill passed in the Florida Legislature. Its advocates say that in the political stew of a legislative session, the very outrageousness of the topic worked against it. Lawmakers said they did not want to be accused of wasting time addressing a rare crime when Floridians needed them to help create jobs. They also did not want to debate the icky subject in public meetings occasionally frequented by children."
Wont some please... (Score:2)
Why do they CARE... (Score:1, Troll)
What business is it of theirs to legislate what should or shouldn’t happen between consenting adults of any species?
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What if the animal was the instigator?
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BTW, was classifying this under "animal cruelty or abuse" ever explained in a sufficiently logical way, considering how many millions of animals we slaughter, kill as pests with various neurotoxins or outright drive to extintion?
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Damn accents get me every time.
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Do they? I would guess that most (all?) animals that are in any significant way useful (big enough, for example?...) for bestiality purposes can also pretty severely mutiliate a human, if they don't approve ("approve" at least as far as animal mind goes)
Plus many dogs seem to have an uncanny desire at the least for human legs...
Heck, my cat (when normally stroked during whatever remains of heat it has) appears, sometimes, to take on a vaguely mating position...
When you think about it, the kind of stroking t
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Well, the argument goes that an animal isn’t mentally cognizant enough to consent or not to a sexual act. Just like a 15-year-old isn’t considered mentally cognizant enough (in all of the US and many other parts of the world), or a person who is physically of age but who has a mental retardation isn’t considered mentally cognizant enough to make that decision.
However then you’re in a very gray area that I frankly don’t like. Why is statutory rape called statutory rape? Because
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I might be going a little too far here ... maybe I am just paranoid. But, I have been analyzing some evidence, fossil and more recent too, and I have reasons to believe that there has been some fucking going on in here. The evidence is subtle, you know, just billions of individuals going around, and, I sure, I am almost sure I've seen some babies from multiple species around here. Do you think maybe animals have been braking the law without being punished for, I don't know, 3.7 billion years? I know it soun
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Well one thing's for certain: they got the magic ages wrong. Female humans don't mentally mature until around 20. And males?! Those animals aren't even remotely mature until around 25! Out of fairness, the age limit can't be unequal; therefore, I insist that no one 25 years of age or older be permitted to inflict sexual acts upon another younger than 25 years!
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Yes, but didn’t it ever occur to anyone that screw-ups, or at least the ability to make your own decisions and face the legitimate consequences of your decisions, are a certain part of the learning process – possibly even an important part of it? Growth only lasts so long, and if it is stunted during that time, the child will never fully reach its potential; this is clearly evident in one’s physical development but is there any reason to believe that it’s any less true for the develo
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It’s a process. Kindergartners are worried about cooties, skinned knees, and the sweater their mom made them wear. Grade schoolers are worried about their sneakers, getting beat up on the playground, and the sweater their mom made them wear. Junior highers are worried about their hair, their sneakers, getting beat up on the playground, and the sweater their mom made them wear. High schoolers are worried about their car, their hair, their sneakers, getting beat up on the playground, and hopefully their
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There are at least a few directions I could take this argument.
Consent? You’re concerned about animals giving consent? We don’t seem to have that hang-up when we’re subjecting them to medical treatments or drugs. You don’t have to worry about getting your dog’s consent before the vet cuts his balls off, do you?
Rape? That is the forcible commission of an act of sexual intercourse upon a human without their consent. Just like killing an animal isn’t called murder, sexual in
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So... I’m curious. If someone had sex with a 15-year-old dead dog, would it be rape, bestiality, necrophilia, or pedophilia?
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Well, I’m honestly a little bit surprised. I asked why politicians felt justified to legislate on a clear morality issue, and I got moderated troll. Maybe the moderator thought I was trying to subtly argue the slippery-slope fallacy?
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Love the sig! He's still out there somewhere, sometimes posts on Slashdot. Total freedom from self-awareness makes for a spectacle on many fora, still funny enough to become a meme.
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He's still out there somewhere, sometimes posts on Slashdot.
Heh. No kidding.
http://slashdot.org/~Falconhell/journal/249604 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/~squiggleslash/journal/249758 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/~gmhowell/journal/250222 [slashdot.org]
http://slashdot.org/~squiggleslash/journal/250282 [slashdot.org]
In fact 2 days ago he registered a new sock puppet [slashdot.org]...
Ellie K (Score:1)
Yes, it is kinda ludicrous that Florida lawmakers cannot overcome some relatively minor obstacles, and manage to pass a law that most everyone, regardless of political affiliation, would agree to. But remember, Florida was one of only 7 or 8 states that still had sodomy laws in place until Federal repeal in 2003. So if I wanted anal with my husband in our own home, we'd could be charged with a misdemeanor punishable by 6 months in jail and fined for as much as $5000, both of us, if apprehended! No, I did
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Personally, I've always been confused that anal and oral are both legally referred to as "sodomy". In the interest of unambiguous communication, shouldn't their be a clear and distinct label for each and every act?
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In some states premarital sex, sex in a position other than missionary and/or sex outside of your bed are also considered sodomy.
In Mississippi, any house with more than 6 unmarried adult women living there was legally a whore house. It prevented the forming for sororities in the state for a long time.
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You don't go to the right sort of party.
If you read the various serious sex science, you'll see estimates that around one in 3 or one in 4 of women enjoy being the recipient of anal sex. Which sounds around right in my experience.
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It is confusing @Locke2005, re the legal defn of "sodomy". I learned a bit working in public health (I'm not an atty, but some policy training was req'd). "Sodomy" is legally equiv to oral AND anal, for same-gender as well as opposite-gender. Why is this relevant to the FL bestiality law?Because Justice Scalia AND Justice Clarence Thomas ruled to uphold the sodomy laws in 2003, but the rest of the court were in favor of repeal, which was the ruling. Scalia's concern [cornell.edu] was that if the sodomy law were overturne
No surprise here (Score:2)
Why do they need this law? (Score:3, Insightful)
I have a question... If we already have laws that prevent animal cruelty, then why do we need a law specifically for having sex with an animal?
If you ask me, the process of butchering millions of chickens, cows, pigs, and sheep every year is far bigger deal for those animals than the perhaps ten thousand a year that are forced to have sex with a human.
I don't think that we should put people in jail for bestiality for the same reasons I don't think we should put people in jail for having anal sex or a scat fetish. The law should not be used to dictate morality, and no matter how icky you think something is, there is someone else who enjoys it.
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So... you like bestiality, then?
No, what this issue shows is that people are hypocrites. They'll demonize people for having different moral standards, while their own invisible line is just drawn a hair further back. Maybe 20 years from now, we'll be looking at all the people who were against bestiality as hate-mongers.
Cruelty? (Score:1)
we already have laws that prevent animal cruelty
I seem to remember one case where it was tried under "animal cruelty" type laws, and the basis of the defence (which I believe won) was "the sheep liked it"
Icky. But hard to prove or disprove, really.
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Only way for some slashdotters... (Score:2)
Of course shagging a sheep with a sheep-skin condom would be ... ironic?
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Of course shagging a sheep with a sheep-skin condom would be ... ironic?
Seriously? Is it really that difficult for Americans to learn/use the concept of irony?
On the internet... (Score:2)