Scouts No Longer Allowed To Have Knives On Camping Trips 28
Scouts in the UK are no longer allowed to bring penknives on camping trips because they have been deemed too dangerous. Traditionally scouts have learned knife safety skills, using them to cut firewood or make tools. Dave Budd, a knife-maker who runs courses training Scouts about the safe use of blades wrote, "Sadly, there is now confusion about when a Scout is allowed to carry a knife. The series of high-profile fatal stabbings [has] highlighted a growing knife culture in the UK. I think it is safest to assume that knives of any sort should not be carried by anybody to a Scout meeting or camp, unless there is likely to be a specific need for one. In that case, they should be kept by the Scout leaders and handed out as required." There is no doubt that soon scouts will get rid of their tents for large sound-proof lucite containers, which will be able to protect the children from the horrors of campfire embers, bug bites and foul language.
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Me too! What a bunch of low-life pussies.
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I can't help but think that a bazooka, although counter-productive in short term, would be a much more satisfying solution to that particular problem ;)
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It started long ago. When I was in the scouts we had firearm safety lessons. We learned how to make slingshots. We each had pocket knives. I'll still teach my kid how to use those things, but it's a different experience learning alongside other kids your age.
Re:Knives Are Tools (Score:4, Insightful)
This would have been a better sentence to use. Less hate mongering, correct spelling, and correct grammar make everyone happy and still get the point across.
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Wow, I should have read further down in the Wiki article:
in contrast to the BSA's policy, homosexuals are not restricted from membership or leadership positions in Scouts Canada and most European associations, including The Scout Association in the United Kingdom, Ring deutscher PfadfinderverbÃnde of Germany (German Scout Federation), and the Swedish Guide and Scout Association
I'm both happy (that the UK isn't so bigoted) and sad (that the BSA is).
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Indeed, you are very correct. Specifically, you wrote "What's next: kitchen knives banned from culinary schools?"
Unfortunately, some of the knives in kitchens are far superior weapons than the knives scouts are generally using. What's next? Licenses to have kitchen knives with blades longer than 4"? A ban on steak knives perhaps?
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Hetrosexual children?
How about you go fuck yourself?
Re:You're a tool (Score:2)
Scouts provide unique opportunities for hetrosexual children to empower self sufficiency
Um, yeah. There has never been a gay scout before, and by gummit, there will never be one. Oh, but if they're gay, they're immune to empowerment and self-sufficiency. Is that how it works?
you're a (Score:2)
Is that how it works?
first of all, i'd like to apologise for "grammar", and for derailing the discussion. this should really be about stabbing weapons and not about gays.
"how it works" is I was trying to make a deft parallel between this shortsighted knife policy by one Scouts organisation with a shortsighted sexual orientation policy by another Scouts organisation. partly tongue in cheek, and partly to show that these organisations have done some pretty backwards things before. Unfortunately, the discussion turned into mo
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"how it works" is I was trying to make a deft parallel between this shortsighted knife policy by one Scouts organisation with a shortsighted sexual orientation policy by another Scouts organisation. partly tongue in cheek, and partly to show that these organisations have done some pretty backwards things before.
Pro tip: Gay people on the internet don't have a sense of humor. They get butthurt over just about everything!
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My apologies- I didn't intend to comment on grammar at all, and I didn't realize that your comment was tongue-in-cheek. We are certainly in agreement with respect to the 'backwardness.' I appreciate the civilized response.
Knives should be considered ARMS (Score:1)
Frankly, I'm fed up with it. Here in the U.S., firearms enjoy respect because they are considered to be weapons and protected by the Second Amendment:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Any attempt to control or reduce the incidence of carrying firearms is met with stiff resistance, and politicians trip all over themselves trying to avoid any suggestion that they might infringe upon this right.
But knives? After boxcutter knives were apparently used in the September 11th hijackings, virtually anything having an edge was banned from the posses
Wrong Direction (Score:1)
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UK Scouting refutes knife ban claims (Score:3, Informative)
http://scouts.org.uk/news/223/scouting-refutes-knife-ban-claims
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Did you actually read the article, and the linked PDF file?
From http://scouts.org.uk/documents/News/080909/Pages%20from%20scouting.pdf [scouts.org.uk]
As bad as the US is, Britain has not just "crossed the l